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Your Views On Pornography Or Pr0n
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Black_n_red_flag
OK, this is my first thread so im kin of unsure how to start it, but i think this is a topic which many people have there views about, but is kept quite, I might be wrong.

So... What are your views on pornography, the age limits and anything else relevant to the topic?

*Prays Intensly that he will get a response*
alienation
cool
ChucK Taylor
i think its ok but its just nasty to see like 40 and 50 year olds in porn or young like 15 or so
OddZoe
QUOTE (Rage against Capitalism @ Mar 21 2004, 03:50 PM)
young like 15 or so

What does that mean they shouldn't be younger than 18....

thom (himself)
as long as nobody is getting hurt and its cool with the people who are being photographed or filmed i think its fine.
ChucK Taylor
QUOTE (OddZoe @ Mar 21 2004, 06:03 PM)
QUOTE (Rage against Capitalism @ Mar 21 2004, 03:50 PM)
young like 15 or so

What does that mean they shouldn't be younger than 18....

yea cause girls have to be 18 or older to be in porn
Casbah
there already was a porn thread, i think its still going, its in the hot seat and its called pornography and infidelity
Sulley
to be honest, i think porn is a good thing. ill admit i look at it, and everyone does!!!


I think porno acts as a social restraint (i don't even know if thats the word i am looking for), but in a positive way i guess. if it wasn't for porno, you would have a shitload more psychotics out on the streets doing god knows what. but instead they are at home looking at it and doing their thing. blink.gif
RATMROXMYSOX
porn is so funny. the "plots" are so dumb, it's hard not to laugh.
Black_n_red_flag
Alot of people think it down grades all females, the other argument is that some women choice to do it, butI honesty dont think theres anything wrong with it.

There shouldn't be an age limit on when you can look at it, its natural...
swingmachete
I think that it's an exploitation in it's current form, when you look at some of these websites and it's like teensforcash, it's all built around exploiting women for a beautiful act(sex) so that they can pay they're bills in college. that's fucking wrong.

do i think looking at naked people is bad thing? no.

do i think exploiting women because of they're need for financial stability is wrong? Yes.

it's just like last night, they had the history of prostitution for Boys Will Be Boys week.

The most appalling spin I've ever seen on the unfairness of class structure, coupled with lower class women being forced to give sex to live. And this was all done with great enjoyment by the history channel.

Here's a recent article on sex trade, and globilization of it.
Article!

back to porn, I think that in a non-capitalist society there wouldn't be porn.
kennakb
"Supreme Court says pornography is anything without artistic merit that causes sexual thoughts, that's their definition, essentially. No artistic merit, causes sexual thoughts. Hmm... Sounds like...every commercial on television, doesn't it? You know, when I see those two twins on that Doublemint commercial? I'm not thinking of gum. I am thinking of chewing, so maybe that's the connection they're trying to make."

Bill Hicks
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RATMROXMYSOX
QUOTE (Black_n_red_flag @ Mar 22 2004, 03:46 PM)


There shouldn't be an age limit on when you can look at it, its natural...

um, i think he meant the age of the girls in the porn, not the age of people watching it.
Black_n_red_flag
huh? I was just adding an extra little point, sorry if its confusing wacko.gif
I abit confused my self
And earlyer on I meant de-grading not downgrading sorry about that too...

RATMROXMYSOX
it's ok. you don't have to apologize for a little grammatical error.
Black_n_red_flag
Not sure what people are like still dunno.gif You're all really nice soo far.
I just drunk a whole tea pot of cold chinese tea it was ickey but also quite nice wacko.gif
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Do you think there should be a limt to what is shown?
RATMROXMYSOX
NO WAY. Let `em go all the way! lol i kid. but as a heterosexual female with bisexual tendencies, i find them very humourous and there is nothing wrong with porn. god, gay porn is hilarious!
Black_n_red_flag
I'm going to bed now night...
Sulley
QUOTE (swingmachete @ Mar 22 2004, 06:22 PM)
I think that it's an exploitation in it's current form, when you look at some of these websites and it's like teensforcash, it's all built around exploiting women for a beautiful act(sex) so that they can pay they're bills in college. that's fucking wrong.

half of those sites are fake...all the girls are porno actors


but im sure that there are real ones out there.....just havn't came across any yet shifty.gif
Manifest
its just entertainment people
angiedavis
QUOTE (RATMROXMYSOX @ Mar 22 2004, 10:29 PM)
NO WAY. Let `em go all the way! lol i kid. but as a heterosexual female with bisexual tendencies, i find them very humourous and there is nothing wrong with porn. god gay porn is hilarious!

What is "god gay porn"?
RATMROXMYSOX
QUOTE (angiedavis @ Mar 23 2004, 12:33 AM)
QUOTE (RATMROXMYSOX @ Mar 22 2004, 10:29 PM)
NO WAY. Let `em go all the way! lol i kid. but as a heterosexual female with bisexual tendencies, i find them very humourous and there is nothing wrong with porn. god gay porn is hilarious!

What is "god gay porn"?

I should have put a comma. Crylol.gif
Manifest
and an extra O
zackfan1234
i think porn ruins marriages. . . shifty.gif
Manifest
are you married?
Black_n_red_flag
I think people like different types of porn not just the Straight or Gay, I won't put them all down because they might not be suitable for this forum...
Manifest
I like the story line flicks, at times you forget you are watching a snuff flick
Sulley
QUOTE (Manifest @ Mar 23 2004, 08:52 AM)
I like the story line flicks, at times you forget you are watching a snuff flick

lol, i think you mean smut


snuff is that nasty nasty nasty shit
angiedavis
^Manifest does mean snuff not smut.



Black_n_red_flag
I dont get that what you lot are on about?
alienation
pimps up hoes down
RATMROXMYSOX
Real Sex on HBO is funny
Manifest
did you see the one about the life-like sex dolls
Defiant One
real sex is gay, it's not hardcore enough
Manifest
wow, Mtv is hardcore enough for me
DTA
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Sara
QUOTE (alienation @ Mar 25 2004, 09:54 PM)
pimps up hoes down

and
QUOTE
real sex is gay, it's not hardcore enough


round and round we go...really ill expressions...


unless im missing something? unsure.gif
Turd Ferguson
I don't like that Asian fetish porn shit. I really really don't.....it just promotes racist attitudes toward women of Asian and Southeast Asian descent. (it's still so prominent today... cry.gif )

I hate it when men think I'm some sort of whore cuz I'm Filipina and I should be "sucky sucky fucky long time" to them.... mad.gif
DTA
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Turd Ferguson
this concerns the whole sex trade in Southeast Asia (particularly in the Philippines):

Export of Filipinas for the Sex Trade
The top country recipient of Filipinas recruited into the sex trade has been Japan. The women are exported under a variety of disguises: as “cultural dancers,” “entertainers,” etc. Filipinas are trafficked into Europe, particularly The Netherlands, Belgium and Germany; into the Middle East where they work in the nightclubs of Egypt, Bahrain, Yemen, etc.; and even to such impoverished countries as Nigeria in Africa. Many of these women are tricked and deceived, being promised jobs as waitresses or nannies, only to discover too late that they are meant to be prostitutes.

Sex Tourism
The Philippines has become a “hot spot” for sex tourists, in a circuit that includes Thailand and recently, Vietnam and Cambodia. Sex tourism includes traveling pedophiles who considered Thailand, the Philippines and, until the war broke out, Sri Lanka as their ultimate destinations.

Sex tourism is highly organized and often imbedded in regular tourism. A small agency operating in the US sends 15 men to the Philippines monthly. A $2,500 payment includes fare, hotel room, hotel breakfasts and a smorgasbord of women nightly. Should the client choose to marry one of the “girls,” the travel agency also helps in the marriage and immigration documents.

Sex tourism started in the 1970s, when the Marcos Dictatorship embarked on an intense campaign to attract visitors to the Philippines so as to raise quick cash to pay the interest on huge loans from the IMF/WB. A portion of the loans was provided by IMF/WB for the construction of shoulder-to-shoulder first-class hotels, which needed tourists to be profitable. The Marcos Dictatorship started its tourism development with the hosting of an international beauty contest. The Ramos government started its tourism development plan by hosting the same international beauty pageant.

Mail-order Brides
Considered a legitimate business in many countries, mail-order bride (MOB) agencies provide men with names, addresses, telephone numbers, pictures and vital statistics of women listed in their catalog or website. The men pay from $50-$800 for batches of names and relevant information. The agencies claim they do not sell women; they only sell photos, names and addresses. But they do offer extra service to their clientele who are all men. They teach the men what to write to the women (“don’t write you’re a truck driver; say you’re in the trucking business”) and how to use the women’s noblest sentiment – the dream of lifting their parents and sibling from poverty – to agree to marry a stranger and live in an alien land. Many, many, many Filipinas have ended up trafficked, battered, abused, raped and/or murdered in this power relationship masquerading as marriage.

Although MOBs from Russia and Eastern Europe are widely reported on in the media, a casual perusal of the catalog of the largest MOB agency in the US shows that nearly 70% of the women for sale come from the Philippines. The US is the top recipient of MOBs from the Philippines, followed by Australia and then the rest of Europe. Some aberrant practices are the so-called 30-day warranty (after 30 days, if the man is not satisfied, he can return the woman to the agency), the “discovery” clause (having sex with the woman to determine if she is satisfactory) and “specialization” – i.e., providing wives to the physically disabled so that they save on homecare and nursing costs.

Domestic Prostitution
The Philippines, per ILO figures, has close to 800,000 women in the sex trade, already overtaking Thailand in terms of the absolute number of prostitutes. The increase is largely due to women’s dispossession under globalization; destruction caused by cultural imperialism of kinship-based safety nets; and the demand for human bodies by the sex trade, as this relies largely on youth and comeliness for profit.


from The Purple Rose Campaign
Casbah
i read something in the paper about that happening in mexico too, exept it was primarily with children... sad.gif

theres some fucked up people out there
Banksy
i think the asian fetish stuff is wrong it promotes racism in a suttle way and gives a sterioypical view of asians to the western world which is completly false
Moremi
Same happens with other people of color...black people are stereotyped in porn, so are Indians. I really hate the way black men are portrayed in porn.
Black_n_red_flag
I dont think black people are steriotyped to be porn stars or prostetutes, its definatley white women search "porn" on google and i bet the majority would be wight females. Black males i think are steriotyped to pimps because of the gangster films.
Moremi
And they make porn like that where black men play those roles. Do a search on google for that. I guess every race is effected really. Because the sexual stereotypes that flourish in this society are what people expect and want to see. Sometimes I watch the Howard Stern show and some of the white porn stars he's interviewed have said they can not or will not make black porn because it will hurt their careers. If our attitudes about race are played out in film, why wouldn't it be in porn? They're making what people want to see ermm.gif whether it's the petite and submissive Asian woman or the gigantic black man with the huge penis rolleyes.gif It's another reflection of what goes on in our society.

Anyway on another subject...
I came across this short film called Asian Pride Porn. It's a comedy. Some people at the site posted that it was racist. I think it's poking fun at the stereotypes of Asians in porn movies. It was written and directed by an Aisan filmmaker.
Turd Ferguson
^^ Asian Pride Porn is one of the most hillarious things I've seen! I like that short film a LOT! laugh.gif I don't find it offensive at all. Greg Pak is the man!!!

HOLLAH!!
grimeline
yes holla
Turd Ferguson
did anyone else see Greg Pak's other film, "All Amateur Ecstacy"? Also very hillarious rofl1.gif
Underground
QUOTE (Manifest @ Mar 23 2004, 02:40 AM)
are you married?

obviously not, it was just said that porn ruins marriages
zapatista
Good times.... You guys hear about this?

Positive HIV tests shut down porn movies.
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