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Rage Head
Would you rather have Rage Against the Machine come back together, or would you rather have the government that you like best to come into play? Now do realize, that the government you like won't make everyone happy, but at least you, maybe.
insurrection
QUOTE(Rage Head @ Jan 2 2005, 10:39 PM)
Would you rather have Rage Against the Machine come back together, or would you rather have the government that you like best to come into play? Now do realize, that the government you like won't make everyone happy, but at least you, maybe.
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I'd rather have no government and have Rage come back together... heh.
rev79
Anything in the poll section should have a poll with it.
Rage Head
I couldn't make one, since your a zdlr mod dude, can't you fix it?
RENNEGADE
i rather have rage back
EZLN libertad
rage 'cause they'd change the system

for the better
RENNEGADE
QUOTE(EZLN libertad @ Jan 9 2005, 10:36 AM)
rage 'cause they'd change the system

for the better
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damn right
zapatista
an ideal government of course.. or maybe no government at all.
Sara
QUOTE(EZLN libertad @ Jan 10 2005, 07:36 AM)
rage 'cause they'd change the system

for the better
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if they could, it would've happened by now.
Grimer 54
I think this questions is sposed to be cute.

I went for the rational answer of the perfect government. But we'd make Ashes in the Fall our national anthem!
Casbah
QUOTE(EZLN libertad @ Jan 9 2005, 06:36 PM)
rage 'cause they'd change the system

for the better
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wow, this thread=lame laugh.gif

its all good
rev79
Anybody who votes option #1 has a few bricks missing from their building.
TheShootingStar
RATM back together!!!!! clap2.gif


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Rage Head
I put Rage back together, because my idea of a perfect government would make other people really mad, unless you just delt with it. But there's always problems, and then I'd be the norm. It's hard, but alot of my fellow zdlr peeps, yes you all, wouldn't like my government most likely.
Metzli
Will there ever be a "perfect goverment"? That is a contradiction in itself!! Crylol.gif So We might as well enjoy Rage in our lifetime... since only ONE out of those two are actually possible. laughing.gif


maybe not! tongue.gif
ChiLanGa
QUOTE(Sara @ Jan 12 2005, 12:33 AM)
QUOTE(EZLN libertad @ Jan 10 2005, 07:36 AM)
rage 'cause they'd change the system

for the better
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if they could, it would've happened by now.
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Absolutely. I dont think they'll be able to make a political change through music.
Theyve made people aware yes... no dramatic changes so far.

Rage Head
I don't think a whole government change, but maybe they'll get people to realize the injustice around them, and more protests will come to help certain things. But the government, I don't think they could change. Like if they kept going and got enough people, they might be able to get an active force to protest for Mumia or Peltier, which would be awesome. I think it could be done, but not a gov. change.
rampage
so i was wondering who came up with that angelic plan in the first place?


the angelic government


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sure that crap'll stick forever and ever and ever

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rampage
i'm sorry

i didnt mean to be rude

yes!

i hope the majic goverment fairy comes to kiss your fairy ass every night of your majic dream night so that every day with be your jackpot at the end of the rainbow of gold

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Lostphoenix
since we all have different perception of what is perfect, i dont believe there ever will be perfect goverment, so being realistic, i went for rage, and i dont believe i have a brick missing in my building, more common sense! the only way to work out politricks is no goverment at all, back to the tribal system on the perfect circle political system - each of the tribe gets the say and decisions are taken on local level, which is the only level that one can influence without a major fuck up, better local fuck up the global fuck up. and festive get arounds with the other tribes, to get merry, pissed, and make love(in uncomplicated manner) and be friends stuff like that. sort out the grievances as friends should by listening to each other and finding best solution for the problem to benefit both parties. somehow i dont see this happening.

i could see rage back as more realistic, although i have not much hopes for it either..... but keep on hopin hey?
Amito
yeh i also voted 4 rage to get back together as they were an awesome band with a message plus everyone has different views on a perfect government
timbob
eh, get ratm back lol, worry about the governemnt later.
zapatista
I can't believe rage is winning this... i'm guessing people don't actually LISTEN to rage.
ChiLanGa
ermm.gif I have found that almost every rage fan i've met, doesnt have a fu#!*ng clue.
key word here is MET ... i have never met any of you.
I
dont know how many kids i've seen wearing Rage shirts with Ernesto Guevara (Che) on the front...

"do you know who that is?"
"yeah its the guy Rage Against The Machine have on their amp" ohno.gif wacko.gif
Casbah
QUOTE(ChiLanGa @ Jan 18 2005, 04:41 AM)
ermm.gif  I have found that almost every rage fan i've met, doesnt have a fu#!*ng clue.
key word here is MET ... i have never met any of you.
I
dont know how many kids i've seen wearing Rage shirts with Ernesto Guevara (Che) on the front... 

"do you know who that is?"
"yeah its the guy Rage Against The Machine have on their amp"  ohno.gif  wacko.gif
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yep.


one time in highschool i had a kid argue with me. i mean he REALLY believed it was zack on this patch i had on a jacket..


dumbass.



omg teh che! yeah ratm rocks i hate the government! tight! rolleyes.gif
timbob
well wtf do you expect!? im a fucken ratm fan, i understand wat ur saying. dont take this poll so seriously....

ive had the same thing with che, i was wearing my che shirt (which is a contradiction in itself, but lets not get into that, im a che fan, i like people to know i am) and some clown goes ask me the question do i wear it cause i like ratm or che? phools.

i have my ratm shirts and my che shirt. has anyone seen the motorcycle dairies yet? i've read the book, but havent seen the movie yert.
Lostphoenix
QUOTE(zapatista @ Jan 18 2005, 03:13 AM)
I can't believe rage is winning this... i'm guessing people don't actually LISTEN to rage.
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i think if you listen to rage, they are not favouring any goverment. they are not for replacing one machine with another. maybe we are more realistic as to the point that whatever person you exchange at the top, the system will be the same. to crush the system is not just cosmetic surgery. its not replacing something that doesnt work with another driver. car that doesnt work wont work whoever drives it.....
regilas
Would it be better to have the problem, or have a solution?

I vote the for the government to be perfect, since many people could learn to get along in a socialist way of life. The reason Rage was formed was because they were sick of the government and its policies. If we got a "perfect government," then we wouldn't need Rage. The reason I like Rage is because of the music and the politics. If the politics were mostly solved, why should we need the music part? It would only be a fragment of history, when the country was under the rule of imperialists.
defiance
I vote perfect government. And then we can still enjoy Zack's music, and mayeb some they'll get together again anway, even without our votes, lol.

Who cares if not everyone's happy with it. That will always be the case. Not everyone's happy with or like RATM either. So what? What matters to me is social justice, that's the first and foremost reason why I love RATM. And Zack is still making good music. And the rest of the band is in Audioslave. I don't really know much Audioslave, and what I do know isn't nearly as good as Rage, but still, they might move on to bigger and better things. Tom Morello has the Nightwatchman, which is awesome, at least the one song of his that I know (No One Left). It may be that it this point, because they are split up, they will go on to make more diverse and unique music of their own, all of it with political messages, and it will allow the role that Rage played as a band to move further forward.

I bet you Zack would vote perfect government (or no government maybe, I'm not sure if he's an anarchist, but either way its the political). I know that for a fact!! Lol.
regilas
^ Zack, I believe is a socialist.

Another fact is that I don't believe Audioslave has made a single political song, defiance. That's a drawback. I think that's why Tom Morello also goes solo in his Nightwatchman career. Just keep that in mind. wink.gif
freedom_mumia
Perfect Government is definatly my vote, I mean of course I love RATM but when I put the two on the scales Perfect Gov. wins hands down. REPUBLIC!
Rage Head
boo. haha, sorry just giving you a hard time. do realize that a perfect government is your idea of a perfect government, many people won't be happy with it, I'd want everyone happy, but that's impossible.
cherry-pop
QUOTE(Metzli @ Jan 13 2005, 12:09 AM)
Will there ever be a "perfect goverment"? That is a contradiction in itself!! Crylol.gif So We might as well enjoy Rage in our lifetime... since only ONE out of those two are actually possible. laughing.gif


maybe not! tongue.gif
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agreed. everyone has a different opinion of what would be "perfect" so technically there is always gonna be a hell of a lot of people to complain about something they wanna change. wallbash.gif jerry.gif
regilas
Everyone won't be happy at FIRST, Rage Head, but if we established a perfect government to the majority's eye, and we didn't exploit people, and everyone in the world were treated as people, and we began to respect our fellow beings, then eventually, we would all be happy.

Besides, I think there are more people unhappy now than if we were to establish my idea of a perfect government.
Rage Head
well that's kind of true, yet in my perfect government, I wouldn't want abortions, but might still have them legal anyways, but if I didn't, that would make people unhappy, and if I did that would make other people unhappy. it's the little things, but I see what your saying
Lostphoenix
well, perfect goverment is perfect utopia. if it happens, not in our lifetimes, not to mention that in 20 years England will have temperatures of Africa, africa will be inhabitable and absolutely majority of the world will be inhabitable and at places htat will be habitable there will be a war of survival, war for land. so what will be habitable, people will kill each other first. so unless we change the way we are destroying the planet, rest assured that our children will be the last humans on this planet unless they will be enlightened and treat each other with respect and help each other survive on the little land left. and still humanity will be reduced to the tribe - that would be a perfect goverment for me. equal members of tribe, each member having a role within a tribe and all people respecting each other. that takes a lot of meditation! and compassion! so the question should have been will human race survive or the ratm gets together? so before world goes bye bye, we can have ratm united to play us to die at least happy.
i think i read too many enviromental issues. sorry to bring you pessimistic prognossis of enviroment and squash dreams of perfect goverment.
PlzCheHelpMe
This is a ridiculous question. Id kill rage for the perfect government, and im sure theyd let it happen to. 4 lives to pay to abolish opression... Get your priorities straight.
Casbah
QUOTE(PlzCheHelpMe @ Feb 20 2005, 08:34 PM)
This is a ridiculous question. Id kill rage for the perfect government, and im sure theyd let it happen to. 4 lives to pay to abolish opression... Get your priorities straight.
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yeah, im pretty sure tim, tom, brad and zack are ready to become martyrs.


its a rockband.


and once you got your perfect government you would eliminate the need for a band like rage against the machine.
Rage Head
but the answer says "your idea of a perfect government", it doesn't mean a perfect world, if it was a perfect government or world that everybody was happy, I'd choose that, but it says "your ideal government", so that's not going to make everyone happy.
defiance
Well those people can deal with it. I mean, don't most of us Rage/Zack fans like Zack so much precisely because he calls for social justice and a better system? Isn't that one of the best and most important parts of the music? My biggest dream is to see a perfect government; Rage should be secondary. It's true that others might nto agree with my idea of a perfect government, but so what? I'm much more worried about providing freedom and equality for everyone who lacks it, about giving the people what is rightfully theirs, than I am about everyone agreeing with me. Besides, my idea of a perfect government would leave a lot of room for disagreement and for dialogue, and if most of the people wanted something else than they would be able to have it.
Rage Head
well that's a good point
defiance
Well I'm glad you think so, laugh.gif
PlzCheHelpMe
QUOTE
but the answer says "your idea of a perfect government", it doesn't mean a perfect world, if it was a perfect government or world that everybody was happy, I'd choose that, but it says "your ideal government", so that's not going to make everyone happy.
You obviously dont know my ideal government...
regilas
^ I'd think it was communism, but then again, your ideal government might just be inspired by Che.
Fred
i am really really shocked by this tread. you pepole must have it good if you prefer a rock band to a goverment.

1 billion pepole have no clean water depending on which way the votes go in the indian parliment over the next couple fo days hiv drugs could jump for 15 euro's a months to naerly 250 euro's a month. a death centace for many pepole.

i agree i would kill rage for the perfect goverment. Lifes not a fucking game. I would die for it.

god knows how many pepole die from amleria each day which is profetable. eminge a 747 crashing every day and your closes.

fred.

AllPowerToThePeople
All mighty Rage!
AllPowerToThePeople
QUOTE(Fred @ Mar 22 2005, 09:42 AM)
i am really really shocked by this tread. you pepole must have it good if you prefer a rock band to a goverment.

1 billion pepole have no clean water depending on which way the votes go in the indian parliment over the next couple fo days hiv drugs could jump for 15 euro's a months to naerly 250 euro's a month. a death centace for many pepole.

i agree i would kill rage for the perfect goverment. Lifes not a fucking game. I would die for it.

god knows how many pepole die from amleria each day which is profetable. eminge a 747 crashing every day and your closes.

fred.
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Dude, there isn't "perfect" anything.
Fred
maby not but lets not disscuss philoshpy when pepole are dying from maleria i mean for fuck sake maleria this is pepole like me and you.


this is important stuff. not like and i like ratm to a sodding rock band. cant you all see the great diffrence in these things.

this has saverly shacken my confidence in hummanity

fred
Rage Head
dude your perfect government isn't going to create every medecine and save everyone. your perfect government is what you want, but is possible. I think that alot of you think if you were in charge every thing could be cured and everyone could have a house the size of Bill Gates, but that's not going to happen. You need to understand you won't have control of everyones mind and all the scientific junk. You just sort out how money works and whether there's gay marriages and abortions or not and all that good jazz. You won't get a bunch of money to spend on every good cause, either. The world is screwed up, but if anyone here had there perfect government, I think you're thinking everything would be settled in every way. Sorry to break your heart.
Fred
with all due respect,

i know money i have a degree in eccnomics.

in india now there is a debate going on weather to band the copy cat drugs for aids this will raise the drug prices from 20 dollars a head to 325 dollars a head per month.

dude i dont even know where to anser this post, it really makes me sick that you could concider that a fucking rock band is more important then stopping us poresser on india to ban these drugs.

dont think i am stupid, a lot can be done. it really must be done.

gay marrages and abosions well maby the whole world is not the fucking usa ok sorry if i am losing my temper he but it is really pissing me off.

look i am not going to dissus what my perfect goverment is here if you want to dissus such things as import tax intrest rates cost accounteting currency exchange and inferstrucur building i am happy to ablige. but if you gyes think that your fariout band getting back together is more important that nationalation of drug companys you need a huge dose of relalty.

fred

p.s sorry for losing my cool but gyes its a fucking rock group it dosnt matter

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