Zack de la Rocha Network Forum _ .:: ZDLR Symposium ::. _ Wild International Lyric

: Zaina Jun 2 2009, 03:04 AM

" Both Mohammad and Christ word life will lay your body down...
to a tune so wild international,
In the desert full of bullets let your body rot,
with my chrome, with my verse, with my body rock..."

can someone break it down for a sista?
is Z is for or against Islam...?

: Tearz4Fearz Jun 2 2009, 12:13 PM

Z is crazy, and he'll get you "sista" (and you're little dog too!)


AHHH HAHSAHAHAHHAHA


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: JessicaLynn4 Jun 2 2009, 01:59 PM

I found this little blurb of an interview with Zack... Hopefully this clears things up for you, Zaina

The first ODAAL single is called “Wild International.” That implies a global politics from the get go. How does your work fit into that scenario?

Zack- Before we get into the larger thing, that song is a response to the way we saw the U.S. government try to reframe the conflicts of the world. Particularly when the Soviet Union had collapsed, there was no way to subject the country to the kind of fear needed to justify what I consider to be an ill distribution of wealth. After 9/11 you could see that reframing taking place. The specter of Communism no longer haunted the U.S., justifying its actions in Latin America and all over the world. What filled that void were Al Qaeda and the Muslim world in general. That song is, in an abstract way, addressing the way the right has distracted people from this huge rush of wealth from the bottom to the top.
Beyond that, I’m speaking toward a deeper sentiment that I feel and I know a lot of people feel. Most of the songs have to do with redemptive moments that come in the face of some real indignity. And that’s the current that I’m trying to tap into, because I think that for a lot of people -- for the real participants who live in the shadows and work at car washes and are forced to cross the border and are struggling and facing the real economic consequences -- they’re often left out off the debate because of the language they speak or even the terminology that they use.
So it stems from my own frustration. It stems from seeing how things have been developing politically, and watching so much dissatisfaction and people very upset about the way the country is going. And watching all of that frustration steered back into a more traditional political process. The problems stem far deeper than anything that Brother Obama can address, and eventually people are going to have to respond.
I think maybe like a conduit for that expression. I have those same feelings too. I’m a Mexicano growing up in that colonized Southwest. I’m an artist, but I didn’t grow up wealthy.

: Tearz4Fearz Jun 2 2009, 03:41 PM

..and that's his problem right there, that's why Z and rage never got anywhere, I can jump right in and analyze or psycho-analyze these statements and with deeper insight say that Z's mind is too stuck on his chicano upbrining, its too "black" white" wealthy" "poor" rich " impoverished, and political non political and so on and so forth .. . no, that's not the problems with the world and his lyrics won't address the problems with the world if stuck in political turmoil due to the fact that political strife and groups fighting will always exist, but the problems facing the nation will not be solved by the anti christ (obama) and his minions, nor will it ever be solved by the government in america or any other nation, because obama osama ain't your brother you fool, and the system about to get blown up and you're still trying to exist within these confines .. . my advice?


Free your mind . ..

Your in convoluted political chains and that ain't christ and his eternal reign or God's Kingdom ..

Its just the system and you are defining spiritual and MORAL problems by the system .. .

That ain't hte problem in this nation it is gonna be GODS JUDGEMENT on America for moral decay . .

The problems are with corrupted leaders" so called leaders like obama and blagojevich etc. the problem is within . .

The problem aint gonna be solved with money or weapons it will be solved with Christ and the healing power of the Lord . . .a flaming sword, also known as TRUTH . .


the rest is ancient history

: Zaina Jun 3 2009, 08:41 AM

Thanx jessicalynn4! at least you are a worth while member of this page!
That other guy can go fuck himself AND his little dog too! mwahahahaha!

: JessicaLynn4 Jun 3 2009, 09:34 AM

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I know what you mean! Some people you just have to take with a grain of salt

: Sarielite Jun 3 2009, 12:57 PM

Do you have the whole interview? I'd be interested in reading it. I was particularly interested in this passage:

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Beyond that, I’m speaking toward a deeper sentiment that I feel and I know a lot of people feel. Most of the songs have to do with redemptive moments that come in the face of some real indignity. And that’s the current that I’m trying to tap into, because I think that for a lot of people -- for the real participants who live in the shadows and work at car washes and are forced to cross the border and are struggling and facing the real economic consequences -- they’re often left out off the debate because of the language they speak or even the terminology that they use.

: JessicaLynn4 Jun 3 2009, 01:56 PM

Unfortunately, I only found this blurb, but I too would love to read the rest of the interview. Zack rarely talks, but when he does, it's worth waiting for. He's a Very well spoken man.

: Tearz4Fearz Jun 4 2009, 06:23 AM

QUOTE (Zaina @ Jun 3 2009, 09:41 AM) *
Thanx jessicalynn4! at least you are a worth while member of this page!
That other guy can go fuck himself AND his little dog too! mwahahahaha!



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Take a joke why don'tcha . ..

: Tearz4Fearz Jun 4 2009, 06:24 AM

QUOTE (JessicaLynn4 @ Jun 3 2009, 10:34 AM) *
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I know what you mean! Some people you just have to take with a grain of salt


Wipe the smirk (smug) expression and TAKE A JOKE and a chillpill already ..


Sheesh!

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: Tearz4Fearz Jun 4 2009, 06:31 AM

Stop worshipping this guy like he's your hero and find a real hero, his name is JESUS CHRIST.

Do not play with my quotes, do not change them, I did not write Richard SImons and I am warning you not to mock me or Jesus again-that is a warning, if you do not listen I am not to be responsible for what happens to you. Peace (I'm out)

: JessicaLynn4 Jun 4 2009, 06:50 AM

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I grew up in a christian household, so I would say that I already know Jesus Christ. I was forced to go church well before I even knew what they were preaching

This is a ZDLR fansite, why do you take offense when a fan posts something in admiration of the man. I mean, what did you expect?

: Sarielite Jun 4 2009, 07:17 AM

It's my understanding that Zack de la Rocha is a Marxist; Marx believed that almost all human behavior could be attributed to particular economic forces that were applied to them. While I don't agree with the conclusions that Marx drew, I think he has some interesting ideas. I like to hear other people's views on one of the most important philosophers in the 19th century.

: RaTm1211 Jun 4 2009, 07:34 AM

rolleyes.gif I just had to have a little fun with this guy...

: elisium Jun 4 2009, 10:13 AM

pm sent.

on thing i will say is keep you religion out of my politics. they have nothing to do with it.

: Sarielite Jun 4 2009, 10:24 AM

QUOTE (Tearz4Fearz @ Jun 4 2009, 06:31 AM) *
Stop worshipping this guy like he's your hero and find a real hero, his name is RICHARD SIMMONS.


Epic win.

: Tearz4Fearz Jun 4 2009, 12:03 PM

Gotta problem with the word JESUS?


JESUS CHRIST

JESUS


JESUS


JESUS


Do not edit my posts again.

: Tearz4Fearz Jun 4 2009, 12:14 PM

QUOTE (JessicaLynn4 @ Jun 4 2009, 07:50 AM) *
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I grew up in a christian household, so I would say that I already know Jesus Christ. I was forced to go church well before I even knew what they were preaching

This is a ZDLR fansite, why do you take offense when a fan posts something in admiration of the man. I mean, what did you expect?


You want to admire a skitzophrenic multiple personality whiner with a convulated brain, go for it- its not my problem.

: JessicaLynn4 Jun 4 2009, 12:26 PM

Once again, I find myself asking, how do you have the authority to spread this shit about Z.

If its not your problem, then stop posting about people finding Jesus . If you want to that, join a missionary and stop heckeling Zs fans about "worshiping" him instead.

Tearz, you said on the last page that I should take a joke but when Sarielite made a joke, you went off the wall..... maybe you should practice what you preach.... since thats all you do around here is preach.

: JessicaLynn4 Jun 4 2009, 06:52 PM

Wow..... lighten up.

: elisium Jun 4 2009, 08:33 PM

game on

: JessicaLynn4 Jun 4 2009, 09:09 PM

Tearz, you're so popular on this board. I think you should stop while you're ahead.

: Tearz4Fearz Jun 5 2009, 02:22 AM

maggots . ..




: Tearz4Fearz Jun 5 2009, 02:25 AM

I am not trying to be popular.

If you think this is a game, I hope you do not mind being the loser. It's not whether you win or lose, its how you play the game. Play fair.

Whoever is breaking into this account and posting images and nonsense, I warned you to stop-and you do it again, fine, let the chips fall where they may (fool) I am not responsible for what happens next.

: Sarielite Jun 5 2009, 03:36 AM


: Tearz4Fearz Jun 5 2009, 04:09 AM

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This really is the pit of insanity.

: Tearz4Fearz Jun 5 2009, 05:41 AM

Money does not give people their dignity back, won't give that girl her virginity back won't give that man his children back won't give that man his life back.

Go burn in a pit of money if you love it so much.

Stay off my threads. Get out of my account you nosy sack of ****

: Zaina Jun 8 2009, 10:17 AM

ANY HOO! offtopic.gif
" Both Mohammed and Christ word life will lay your body down..."
seems like he's refering to submission ...
like beliving in God will " lay your body down"...
Anyone have any idea what these lyrics might be about?

: Fremen Bryan Jun 8 2009, 10:41 AM

QUOTE (Zaina @ Jun 8 2009, 11:17 AM) *
ANY HOO! offtopic.gif
" Both Mohammed and Christ word life will lay your body down..."
seems like he's refering to submission ...
like beliving in God will " lay your body down"...
Anyone have any idea what these lyrics might be about?


I think it is saying that Muhammed and Christ (Peace be upon them) would destroy those destroy the Earth for $, and would "make 'em, eat 'em and shit 'em
'til they, so full of holes that they drown in their own" (blood).
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