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Banksy
May 27 2004, 01:22 PM


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QUOTE (cosmic @ May 27 2004, 04:51 PM)
^ very nice argument banksy. A little messy, but I understood it.

smile.gif Thanks cosimc, didn't think it was legible.


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May 27 2004, 08:11 PM


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QUOTE (Banksy @ May 27 2004, 04:29 PM)
Im glad I made that statement now ^ . It means i can have a decent argument now with a vegertarian and i can justify my meat eating instinction. I just hope they don't starve themselves to death after it.

Being a vegetarian isn't just about not causing suffering for animals tongue.gif

but your right, all life should be seen as sacred, and should be treated with respect and only be taken if needed.

my reason for being a vegetarian is for environmental reason though....


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May 28 2004, 08:26 AM


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QUOTE (Fanatical Radical @ May 28 2004, 04:11 AM)
QUOTE (Banksy @ May 27 2004, 04:29 PM)
Im glad I made that statement now ^ . It means i can have a decent argument now with a vegertarian and i can justify my meat eating instinction. I just hope they don't starve themselves to death after it.

Being a vegetarian isn't just about not causing suffering for animals tongue.gif

lol i know i was joking. Seriously though i do respect all vegertarians views, i think most vegaterians have really good views on not eating meat. Reasons like youv'e said about the enviromental side of it.


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Jun 20 2004, 02:23 PM


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Being alive is feeling pain. Who knows if plants are alive.


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Jun 20 2004, 02:42 PM


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QUOTE (lemming @ Jun 20 2004, 10:23 PM)
Being alive is feeling pain. Who knows if plants are alive.

um the folks who breath the oxygen they exhale....
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Jun 20 2004, 02:49 PM


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Are people who are vegetables alive? I don't think so.


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QUOTE (lemming @ Jun 20 2004, 10:49 PM)
Are people who are vegetables alive? I don't think so.

if a vegetable could talk..


see people assume that you need to adopt a soul to be alive. such crap. sometimes it's just shitting and eating.

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Jun 20 2004, 05:08 PM


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I'm talking about being alive as with a conscious. Not just consuming earthly resources. You pull a trigger on a gun, which makes the hammer fall. Is the gun a conscious living being? Or just a Object.


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Jun 28 2004, 03:19 PM


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It's sort of redundant to mention this.....but I remember reading a snippet article in Omni magazine quite a few years back regarding this matter.... in this particular study there was a notable electro-chemical change in response to various stimuli... cutting, atmospheric changes, even the prescence of certain people and creatures, etc.... of course telling you all this is useless without citing the actual people and places involved in the study..... so I'll have to see if I can find that info and hit you back with that......

if I remember correctly it was the same issue as the guy who theorised our species would evolve further through the use of Magic Mushrooms.... but I may be mistaken.... oh well..... I'll try to find it and let you know...


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I know what you mean about caring for the plants.
When I left to go abroad, it was VERY IMPORTANT to find
a good home for my plants.

Your two-colored Christmas Cactus sounds interesting.
You are fortunate to have friends who tend them for you.

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