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May 14 2003, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE (ZDLRfan @ May 14 2003, 10:57 PM)
Well, I can't speak for everyone but I don't think it's always an excuse. Sometimes, it depends on the individual saying it. Sometimes, it has to do with the environment you come from. I choose not to use certain words but I'm not always offended when others use them because there is an understanding of what is being said.

of course it is not always an excuse, but in this case, i think we're educated enough here to know better. is that why you choose not to say certain words?

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So says you. That show is full of stereotypes against gay people, blacks and the mentally disabled. It's offensive! And why is it acceptable to you when a character on South Park says "that is so gay" but here it's an insult?


the cartoon takes place in the burbs, the characters are kids not in the know of reality outside their li'l box town, like in real life, but exaggerated. it points this out, or no?


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May 31 2003, 09:52 AM
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I don't believe there's anything wrong with using the word gay as an adjective. 'This movie is gay' or 'this song is gay', there's nothing wrong with that usage. But when you firmly start using that kind of term in the direction of an individual, then there is a problem I suppose. In this day and age we have multiple meanings for many words, which is why its acceptable, you just have to know when to use them.


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May 31 2003, 09:58 AM
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^ I totally agree with you, I guess it's different depending on your peer group becuase when im with certain people I can use that word freely, like with the cats I play ball with, we use that word freely and we dont intend to use it in reference to homosexuals


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Jun 1 2003, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (revolutionusa @ Jun 1 2003, 06:52 AM)
I don't believe there's anything wrong with using the word gay as an adjective. 'This movie is gay' or 'this song is gay', there's nothing wrong with that usage. But when you firmly start using that kind of term in the direction of an individual, then there is a problem I suppose. In this day and age we have multiple meanings for many words, which is why its acceptable, you just have to know when to use them.

but this is not about multiple meanings. we're not talking about gay meaning happy, or gay meanng homosexual. u say "this movie is gay" what do u actually mean?


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Just uncool is all.


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QUOTE (revolutionusa @ Jun 2 2003, 07:01 PM)
Just uncool is all.

see that's what i'm against


what's uncool bout being gay, ur giving the movie negative attributes when using gay, i dont think its right.


it's like saying (and i've given this example before) "this is so hispanic" meaning cheap or stupid, does it make sense? i don't thnk so, is it offensive? for sure it is. and it's wrong.


i can't think of any valid reason why ppl need to be this prejudice against underrepresented groups in society.


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OK, people..... Sarah IS completely right. Look, how can you say that using the word 'gay' as a negative attribute is somehow completely ok because it is not AIMED at someone who's homosexual? It's the SAME fucking WORD.

Ok, the possible meanings are: either in old usage, to mean happy, or in modern usage, meaning homosexual. There are not multiple meanings for gay when your using it as a negative adjective, bc we KNOW your not using it to describe happy.

Ok, let's get intellectual. Maybe your trying to express something which has somehow in someone's mind SOMEWHERE, come to mean 'gay' by loose, ignorant association but you're trying to say BAD... could kitsch be the word your searching for? Or camp? I don't know. I don't want to assume. I just don't see anything right in using 'gay' to describe anything, simply bc in modern english the word is accepted as meaning homosexual, and therefore your making it negative.

Sonja, soz I missed this whole thread after my post on the first page. I never saw 'nigga' get used either, but if I did I woulda caused a furor... grin.gif


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Jun 2 2003, 10:43 AM
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The word "gay" has other meanings besides "happy" or homosexual. According to Miriam Webster, gay also means "given to social pleasures; licentious"


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Jun 2 2003, 07:42 PM
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"this is so hispanic" meaning cheap or stupid
laugh.gif I use that line all the time especially when I ask mi padre for lana, im like "damn veijo way are you so Beanner" (hispanc/cheap)



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Speaking of the word Beanner im goin' to use that like the brothas use the N word then im going to get all offended when someone of a different race uses it


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Scratch that it sounds a lot cooler if I say Beannah,

Like " Yo, what up my Beannah..., Peace out Beannah..., Damn you Beannah's be trippin, cuz'"


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^ whaaaaa??


im so confused!! unsure.gif


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QUOTE (Manifest @ Jun 2 2003, 11:44 PM)
Speaking of the word Beanner im goin' to use that like the brothas use the N word then im going to get all offended when someone of a different race uses it

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Scratch that it sounds a lot cooler if I say Beannah,

Like " Yo, what up my Beannah..., Peace out Beannah..., Damn you Beannah's be trippin, cuz'


I don't know if these remarks were meant to be sarcastic but if they were that was an extremely ignorant and insensitive thing to say! Are you trying to say black people should not get offend when non-blacks use the word "nigga"? Or something else? Explain please.


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QUOTE (Manifest @ Jun 3 2003, 04:42 PM)
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"this is so hispanic" meaning cheap or stupid
laugh.gif I use that line all the time especially when I ask mi padre for lana, im like "damn veijo way are you so Beanner" (hispanc/cheap)

is he your real father? unsure.gif


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Speaking of the word Beanner im goin' to use that like the brothas use the N word then im going to get all offended when someone of a different race uses it



laugh.gif how bout NO mellow.gif


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Scratch that it sounds a lot cooler if I say Beannah, Like " Yo, what up my Beannah..., Peace out Beannah..., Damn you Beannah's be trippin, cuz'"


the problem is, people like you, when u belong to an underrepresented ethinc group, it's twice as hard to be taken seriously, and to get equal rights as everyone else, what do u do? you go and use those terms that are meant to degrade your culture, and tell us it's ok, well...thats' just beyond me...i don't understand....instead of taking a stand against prejudice, ur copying ppl u see on TV coz it's so cool to say "nigga", it's not cool... mellow.gif



of course, it'll be all clearer when u explain what your trying to convey here.


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"Does gay=ugly, bad, cheap,...etc.? "


I believe that there are people who want others to feel that gay is Ugly, Bad, Cheap, Not-Right, UnChristian, Uncatholic, Un_______(place religions' name here)

The same people who would support the creation and sustenance of Separate Fountains.....because

White People who drink from Black People fountains are bad, ugly, cheap, etc..... I'm sure that in those days, these little females would be TOTALLY against doing it because they would be verbally assaulted and systematically-humiliated.

I stress females because the same system that was designed to Create A Separation Of Black drinkers and White drinkers is the same system that seeks the subservance of the Female.

You think that "Johnny Cool" didn't use his "don't be a chicken....just hate blacks and call them names and stick with me, mr atlas while my daddy makes the laws that nurture our hate?"

like the John Lennon song says, "Woman is the nigger of the world"


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