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post May 10 2003, 09:08 PM
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I agree with Manifest, i say what ever word i like to describe or refer what ever i feel like. Thats pretty much all i have to say.


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post May 10 2003, 09:10 PM
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post May 12 2003, 08:38 AM
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I have a number of friends who are gay, and the term, 'gay', is pretty much the accepted term, though in some circles, 'queer' is no longer considered a term of abuse, either.

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post May 12 2003, 08:56 AM
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In our language gay is n't bad,we use it always,if we call someone gay it doesn't mean that we hate this person or gay.But i think that depends on context. In Russia homophobia isn't very wide-spread. Nazism and
religious discords are much more than homophobia.


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post May 12 2003, 10:10 AM
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I just think that it is important to be careful when using terms like “gay” as slang. When you think about the word gay you think of a person who is homosexual. So when you say that’s “gay”…well, you see the association. Big things start from small and if we use the term “gay” to say something is lame, then what’s next? “That’s _____” You fill in the blank with the slurs of your choice.

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post May 12 2003, 10:34 PM
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i dont think it's appropriate when ppl say "gay" to describe ugly or lame or cheap, i think it's stupid and childish.

to me saying something is gay to give it negative attributes is just as bad as making a racist or sexist remark.


it's like me saying "ew it's so hispanic" u know what i mean, to me it's very offensive. this is not bout freedom of speech it's bout watching out for other ppl's feelings, and having the decency to respect everyone around u.


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post May 13 2003, 02:24 AM
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And how to call real gay?Without homophobia?If you want to know gays call themself gays too,i don't know how in another countries,but at my place they call. Churka or hachik for kavkazian, zhid for jew , red lace for comunist or uzkoglaziy for asian is much offensive than gay.


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post May 13 2003, 01:59 PM
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^it's not about how offensive it is, it's about just being offensive.


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post May 13 2003, 04:03 PM
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Man, I think this whole topic is just G.... j/k (don't have a cow.. lol)... But, for real though.. I agree with a lot of what Manifest was sayin.. A lot of people do contradict themselves when they say they are for free speech, but yet they are against stuff like this.. I also agree when he said if you say that kind of stuff, you should be willing to suffer the consequences.. ya know???

If I'm hanging around with a person that I know is gay or might be gay.. I wouldn't say nothin like that.. And thats just out of respect.. ya know????

But, at the same should I stop sayin and giving my opinion about stuff because I think it will offend people???? If thats the case I should just shut up about everything because it might offend someone.. ya know??


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post May 13 2003, 04:22 PM
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^look, i'm all for free speech! Say what you will, it's all good. As Chomsky said "If we don't believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we don't believe in it at all" I don't think anyone is saying that people can't use the word..no one is trying to censor here. I just think that Freedom of speech should be used for more important things then saying "oh, that's Gay". Just my thought though. If your going to use your freedom of speech say something important!

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post May 13 2003, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE (zapatista @ May 14 2003, 12:22 AM)
^look, i'm all for free speech! Say what you will, it's all good. As Chomsky said "If we don't believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we don't believe in it at all" I don't think anyone is saying that people can't use the word..no one is trying to censor here. I just think that Freedom of speech should be used for more important things then saying "oh, that's Gay". Just my thought though. If your going to use your freedom of speech say something important!

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"no one is trying to censor here." Please!!!!!! From what I have been reading it sounds like a lot of people are trying to get that little phrase censored out.. lol..
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post May 13 2003, 04:59 PM
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QUOTE (zapatista @ May 13 2003, 04:22 PM)
If your going to use your freedom of speech say something important!

what if we have nothing important to say?? huh.gif we lose our freedom of speech, and gain it back when we have something important to say??... mellow.gif


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post May 13 2003, 05:07 PM
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^hahaha I see your meaning. All I'm saying is WHY GAY? No one has been able to give a clear answer. I keep hearing freedom of speech...that's not clear enough for me. smile.gif
That's all i'm saying...dig? wink.gif


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post May 13 2003, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (zapatista @ May 13 2003, 05:07 PM)
^hahaha I see your meaning. All I'm saying is WHY GAY? No one has been able to give a clear answer. I keep hearing freedom of speech...that's not clear enough for me. smile.gif
That's all i'm saying...dig? wink.gif

maybve cuzz its shorter than homosexual? or..cuzz....i dunno...how does "thats straight" sound..?..i dunno..cuzz maybe the "normal" thing (even though i think normal is a stupid word) would be for some1 to be heterosexual..and being gay..not normal...there for... saying "thats gay" could mean..like "thats not normal", i dont know, its just a word.


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post May 13 2003, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (TheShootingStar @ May 13 2003, 05:48 PM)
QUOTE (zapatista @ May 14 2003, 12:22 AM)
^look, i'm all for free speech! Say what you will, it's all good. As Chomsky said "If we don't believe in freedom of speech for those we despise, we don't believe in it at all" I don't think anyone is saying that people can't use the word..no one is trying to censor here. I just think that Freedom of speech should be used for more important things then saying "oh, that's Gay". Just my thought though. If your going to use your freedom of speech say something important!

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"no one is trying to censor here." Please!!!!!! From what I have been reading it sounds like a lot of people are trying to get that little phrase censored out.. lol..

If you're talking about the board, this has nothing to do with censoring nor will it ever be censored.


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