I'm kinda curious to see how the mixture of rockers and hip hop heads differs on this site...

^ You picked rap, right? I chose nothing, cuz I like em both as much.

Ren, you should've had a third option as the 'rap-rock' hybrid..I voted for rock, even though its about split down the middle these days for me.

Im down with alot more hip hop than I used to be, and as far as what I listen to more, its pretty even, but no contest really. Rock, metal, classic rock...some folk...(anything with a guitar, really) I find alot easier to get into.

to be quit frank...i have a certain hatred for rap



don't hate me

^ I don't hate you .......... yet, anyway


Why do you hate rap?

Rock and Rap..

I personally believe that Zack's solo album with be more hip hop based than rock, judging by the people he's collaborated with over the past few years. "March Of Death" had a rock-n-roll vibe, but essentially - it was still a DJ spinning the beat and not a guitar, bass and drum kit.

I think that a lot of Zack's fans on this site, who mightn't have heard tracks that Zack has released since he left RATM (other than "March Of Death") are expecting a more 'rock' project of some kind. I really don't think that this will happen. I've listened to the artists that Zack's collaborated with, and if he enjoys their music then I can't imagine he'd be going back to his "Inside Out" ways (I mean come on, that was 16 years ago!). Don't get me wrong, I reckon Zack will be angry on his album - but I also reckon he'll have a fair few chilled out tracks too.

I'm curious to see how this poll ends up, cause either way, some people on this site are probably not going to like the solo album. To me it's like the rockers look one way while the hip hoppers look another - but hopefully Zack tears the page down the middle.

^ I seriously believe that it'll be hip-hop based, cuz that's what it is, isn't it? Adding on to it, it's supposed to have a "scary" sound to it. This makes me think of a weirder version of March of Death. Still, rap or rock, I'll like it, cuz I like both. That's why I nulled my vote.

^ Yeah



No, I kid.



But rap isn't just plain stupid. The lyrics sometimes are stupid, yes. The arrangement of the music is also sometimes stupid, but that's sometimes the case with rock songs; how many rap songs do you know, anyway? Another question: how old are you?

I'm not trying to argue, just talking.

i hate kid rock to...and korn is what got me into music when i was 13. and seriously i love dedicating my time to music its something i really really love to do both listen and play.

oh well i'm just not ment to be a rap/hip hop fan

i'm also not a fan of pop, techno and alot of newer punk stuff

what i'm into is rock, hard rock, metal, some punk and i guess the whole "rock/rap" thing.


sorry this is off topic almost completly i just like talking

^ No it ain't (at least to me).


I'm into just about anything, except jazz.

Korn rocks! That's another band I sorta liked before hearing much of RATM. Ya like Tool?

i've never really listened to tool...i've heard songs but didn't pay much attention to them...perhaps i'll listen to them again soon


any good tool song suggestions?

^ Start with the obvious...Sober, Schism, Prison Sex, Stinkfist...Aenema...

alright

hmm..i really like the music and stuff..and maynard has a nice voice but i don't think they go well together...and he just seems to repeat fuck alot...whats up with that?




reg you a fan of the misfits?

omg tool is awesome. respect the tool! hahaha

Im like addicted to the song the grudge right now. I bet that song would be unfuckingbelieveable live.

im addicted to sober my friend went to their concert and said they played it flawless. i love them.

I'm addicted to Eulogy and The Grudge, at the moment.


No, I've heard of Misfits, but never really heard any of their music.

Like both, but stating a preference was easy: I went with rock.

Not enough choices up there..... I'm an all of the above kind of guy when it comes to music... all dependant on my mood at the time.... Tool and Misfits are both really great..... but ten minutes from now I could be on a Tori Amos kick.... few after fire up Wu Tang..... Mozart..... Irish traditional..... whatever..... I just go with what sounds good at the time..... and hey Reg, why no on the Jazz.... if you don't mind me asking that is....

I like Eminem



Why no on the jazz? I hate it. Especially when I went to a college concert and heard the most horrible voice in California singing songs. Jazz seems like simply talking throughout the music. Rock keeps a rhythem(sp) going, and the lyrics go in with each other, and the singers carry a tune. For instance:

Rock song:
He had alot to say
He had alotta nothing to say
we'll miss him
we'll miss him
x2


Jazz song:
I'm going on the road to Indiana
when I stop by and ...

I hardly remember it, cuz the lyrics went by too quickly. Quicker than rap. Jazz also seems to have crappy beginnings and endings. It's as if the music switch was turned on for a while, then it was turned off again at the "end" of the song. It's like ending Know Your Enemy after Keenan's voice.

In conclusion: I hate jazz because of the overall. Once again, you may as well just talk during the song, cuz that's what jazz seems like. Those that sing in it may have good voices, but I simply think that those voices could use their talent on something else, maybe rock, or if they're more mellow, on folk-music.

was just wondering..... thank you for replying....

Gah! Can't take this...I like both equally! Although the people at my school can't tell at first... I guess I don't look like the average hip-hop head persay...but screw `em! Screw them and their opinion! Judging me cuz I have orange bangs Well yeah...their should be rap-rock up there...::sigh::

Blues Sucka

Just for the record, Eminem likes Rage Against The Machine. He mentioned them in an article years back (The link is dead now... ). He also mentions them in one of his songs called "Just Don't Give A Fuck".

As for rap being crap; you just need to know what to listen to. You generally won't find good rap on the radio. I'd say start with Run-DMC's greatest hits CD, you want political hip hop go KRS-One's "A Retrospective" or if you like mellow stuff go to De La Soul's "Stakes Is High". Also check out Blackalicious and A Tribe Called Quest. If you think that DJ's are all about break beats and scratching, get yourself a copy of DJ Shadow's "Endtroducing" album. Personally, this is what I predict Zack's album will come close to sounding like. I hope I've been helpful

ahhh...you see renegades no matter how good the d.j and even if the rapper can talk super fast the music is just...well plain crap. the whole turntables and effect things just sound really stupid to me. i like guitars/bass and drums. i even hate keyboards. sure there hard instruments and i guess i respect the people who play them as much as a guitar player (sept in some cases) but i don't like the sound of the music.

sorry if my point doesn't seem clear its kinda hard to explain i guess

It's cool, I suppose I cant understand. I hat the Misfits and all that other hard stuff though, too much for my ears...

heh thats understandable

Actually that doesn't suprise me at all! I mean, in America the rap genre is still very much African-American based. Most rappers are black over there. Rock was developed mostly in America and England from middle-class white kids, so it's understandable to see why that hasn't changed much either...

Yeah, that's what I thought, and I see it day after day. I dunno, it just seemed weird at the time. It feels normal, now, but ... I dunno, ya know.

of course i'll go with rap because 2pac isthe best singer ever touched the mic and no one will be better than him and he is the most record selling rapper with 27.5 million. that's it

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by the way i forgot to say welcome to y'all

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I preffer rock, from old to modern

I do like Rap though. Atmosphere, K-os, and Sweatshop Union are all some of my favorite artists. And amazing bands like RatM and Warsawpack mix elements from rap into their music.

How can you choose rock over rap when Zack did a little bit of both?

yo i'd say that i prefer rock,hardcore and metal,but i have no problem listening to almost everything.for example i like doors,john lee hooker,black sabbath...,pantera,body count,slipknot,nirvana,children of bodom,or cypress hill,ice-t,dmx,ll cool j,n.w.a,public enemy,and of course the best band ever,ratm.i think what is important is to be open minded.of course i dont like pop or trance at all,but anyway.

do yo ulove 2Pac you know the legendary rapper

another pac fan on the forum

obviously you got to love tupac although i know a lot of people dont especially banksy

I like rap, but I not knoe anithing about it, and I love Rock...

because he is the best

I reckon his family hell sold out on him by releasing all those unfinished songs, bootlegs and other crap just to cash in on him...

2Pac is still very... grade 8 to me...

I don't like what he sings about. I don't like his view on things or how he trys to portray himself. I also don't really like his voice to much either, It sounds to me very similar to lots of other rappers so I don't really see what makes him so special really.