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Apr 15 2005, 05:54 AM
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![]() Freedom Advocate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 5,060 Joined: 21-June 03 From: Vermont Member No.: 483 |
Hillary Clinton will probably be a prime factor in 2008 no matter what.
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Apr 15 2005, 08:54 AM
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![]() Trouble Man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 4,493 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 377 |
in texas, the republicans try to throw in Hillary's name in every attack ad... it doesnt even have to be relevant at all to the victim..
this is how every single one of the ads closes.. "-insert name here- and Hillary Clinton, too liberal for Texas." -------------------- I fucking SAID this would happen!
-Karl Marx |
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Apr 15 2005, 12:07 PM
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![]() loveable nemesis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 3,623 Joined: 17-December 03 From: New York City Member No.: 1,381 |
I would vote for McCain over Hillary. I think we need a strong centrist, who can help to bring the country together. There are a lot of people even here in New York that are vehement in their protest of her.
-------------------- This is the FiFTY-FOUR effect: (the loveable nemesis)
QUOTE(Grimer 54) Society begets government. Anarchist theory is actually just a pseudo-intellectual state of denial, an idealistic illusion that can never be more than a wholly unfulfilled dream. Thus, it is a counter-productive measure that actually weakens, rather than improves the progress of society as government is inevitable in the maintenance of civilization. Therefore, it is infinitely more effective to pursue political upheaval through the system, rather then against the system. For despite all of its flaws, both Democracy and Capitalism are still rooted within the people themselves by rational and realistic means. That is not to say I advocate the status quo, but instead, a moral pursuit to right the endless wrongs brought on by the evils of human nature, via an unintimidated, undaunted, unmitigated spirit of liberty and justice for all, rather then the destructive hypocrisy of your so-called "revolution." "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend, to the death, your right to say it". - attributed to Voltaire Still a sheltered idealist... but learning: This is no Oasis. |
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Apr 15 2005, 05:10 PM
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![]() Trouble Man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 4,493 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 377 |
Both are horrid, and Mccain is NOT a centrist, he's a partisan loyalist.
-------------------- I fucking SAID this would happen!
-Karl Marx |
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Apr 16 2005, 06:24 PM
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![]() Very busy w. school >_< ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 2,267 Joined: 18-April 04 From: Toronto, ON Member No.: 2,022 |
QUOTE(Casbah @ Apr 15 2005, 09:10 PM) Both are horrid, and Mccain is NOT a centrist, he's a partisan loyalist. [right][snapback]167437[/snapback][/right] Ummm what's so bad about Hillary? -------------------- ![]() |
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Apr 16 2005, 08:43 PM
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![]() Trouble Man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 4,493 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 377 |
QUOTE(insurrection @ Apr 17 2005, 02:24 AM) QUOTE(Casbah @ Apr 15 2005, 09:10 PM) Both are horrid, and Mccain is NOT a centrist, he's a partisan loyalist. [right][snapback]167437[/snapback][/right] Ummm what's so bad about Hillary? [right][snapback]167737[/snapback][/right] Whitewater? or how bout' the time she thought she could be charming by saying that Ghandi was working at a gas station she once visited? -------------------- I fucking SAID this would happen!
-Karl Marx |
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Apr 16 2005, 09:30 PM
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![]() Very busy w. school >_< ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 2,267 Joined: 18-April 04 From: Toronto, ON Member No.: 2,022 |
QUOTE(Casbah @ Apr 17 2005, 12:43 AM) QUOTE(insurrection @ Apr 17 2005, 02:24 AM) QUOTE(Casbah @ Apr 15 2005, 09:10 PM) Both are horrid, and Mccain is NOT a centrist, he's a partisan loyalist. [right][snapback]167437[/snapback][/right] Ummm what's so bad about Hillary? [right][snapback]167737[/snapback][/right] Whitewater? or how bout' the time she thought she could be charming by saying that Ghandi was working at a gas station she once visited? [right][snapback]167758[/snapback][/right] um you're going to have to explain a bit better... i have very little knowledge of anything about her... what is Whitewater? -------------------- ![]() |
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Apr 17 2005, 11:50 AM
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![]() Trouble Man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 4,493 Joined: 12-April 03 From: Denver, Colorado Member No.: 377 |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewater_scandal
QUOTE The Whitewater scandal was an American political scandal which developed in Bill Clinton's first term as president, after the death of deputy White House counsel Vincent Foster. After Foster's death it was learned that chief White House counsel Bernard Nussbaum had removed documents concerning the Whitewater Development Corporation from Foster's office. President Clinton and his wife had invested in this corporation; the Clintons were accused of fraud in connection with this investment during the Securities and Exchange Commission's investigation of the bankruptcy of Madison Guaranty, an Arkansas trust company.
-------------------- I fucking SAID this would happen!
-Karl Marx |
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Apr 18 2005, 01:22 PM
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![]() Writer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 2,656 Joined: 10-October 03 From: Minnesota Member No.: 929 |
I think not. We've never had a female president, and though I'd love to live for that day, I don't think that America as a whole really could.
-------------------- A world this evil should be black, blind, and deaf, and without any feelings at all. Then there won't be any color to be seen, no hatred to be heard, and no pain to be felt.
- Anne Moody. The simplest man or woman with passion will be more persuasive than the most eloquent without. - Descartes |
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Apr 21 2005, 04:49 PM
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![]() loveable nemesis ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 3,623 Joined: 17-December 03 From: New York City Member No.: 1,381 |
McCain is about as far from a partisan loyalist as you get dude... he routinely reaches over the aisle. He's a centrist, rather then a radical... please!
-------------------- This is the FiFTY-FOUR effect: (the loveable nemesis)
QUOTE(Grimer 54) Society begets government. Anarchist theory is actually just a pseudo-intellectual state of denial, an idealistic illusion that can never be more than a wholly unfulfilled dream. Thus, it is a counter-productive measure that actually weakens, rather than improves the progress of society as government is inevitable in the maintenance of civilization. Therefore, it is infinitely more effective to pursue political upheaval through the system, rather then against the system. For despite all of its flaws, both Democracy and Capitalism are still rooted within the people themselves by rational and realistic means. That is not to say I advocate the status quo, but instead, a moral pursuit to right the endless wrongs brought on by the evils of human nature, via an unintimidated, undaunted, unmitigated spirit of liberty and justice for all, rather then the destructive hypocrisy of your so-called "revolution." "I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend, to the death, your right to say it". - attributed to Voltaire Still a sheltered idealist... but learning: This is no Oasis. |
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Apr 21 2005, 06:03 PM
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![]() Writer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 2,656 Joined: 10-October 03 From: Minnesota Member No.: 929 |
^ Was that meant toward me?
And also, I probably wouldn't really want to see Hilary as the first female president anyway. I'd like to see Maxine Waters. That'd be the day. -------------------- A world this evil should be black, blind, and deaf, and without any feelings at all. Then there won't be any color to be seen, no hatred to be heard, and no pain to be felt.
- Anne Moody. The simplest man or woman with passion will be more persuasive than the most eloquent without. - Descartes |
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May 7 2005, 10:08 AM
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![]() Truth Advocate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 1,835 Joined: 29-July 04 From: Orlando, Florida Member No.: 2,511 |
I'd say she really doesn't have much of a chance. I'm not sexist, but there are millions in America who are.
-------------------- La ilaha il'Allah
George Orwell: "All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting." "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." |
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May 8 2005, 07:15 PM
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![]() Writer ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 2,656 Joined: 10-October 03 From: Minnesota Member No.: 929 |
... even if they don't know it.
-------------------- A world this evil should be black, blind, and deaf, and without any feelings at all. Then there won't be any color to be seen, no hatred to be heard, and no pain to be felt.
- Anne Moody. The simplest man or woman with passion will be more persuasive than the most eloquent without. - Descartes |
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Oct 20 2006, 08:27 AM
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The Witch ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 1,724 Joined: 28-February 06 From: PENNSYLVANIA Member No.: 3,907 |
Im not voting for her..Id vote for a woman, if I liked her.
Ill probably Write in Tom Morello -------------------- |
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Mar 9 2007, 08:19 AM
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![]() Junior Activist ![]() Group: Activist Posts: 13 Joined: 5-March 07 From: Texas(sucks) Member No.: 5,550 |
i would have no problem voting for a woman
but i wouldnt vote for hillary, i have no respect for her |
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