Homosexuality And Marriage, What are your views on Homosexuality?? Options

[somasoul]

As someone who could really care less about homosexual marriage let me offer a new perspective:

...I'd gladly live in a place where gay marriage is legal but more importantly I want to live in a place where my values seem important. If the majority of people in Cowturd, Nebreska don't like the idea of gay marriage then why should they be forced to acknowledge it?


Your attempt at being tolerant of a certain group's views has alienated another groups views. You have written off some people in exchange for others.

This is why I am in favor of a weak and limited federal government and strong communities. In a world where people can best choose how to live for themselves they need not be afraid of those that oppose them morally. In the end the culture war would come to an abrupt halt and (I would hope) we would have a healthy understanding of each-other rather then a strong distaste.
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so u dont care for gay marriage. so ur neutral towards it. neutral meaning you wouldnt vote against it or for it for that matter.

then u say that in a place where there's a majority of people not wanting gay marriage, gay people there should not marry ( because they just want be acknowledged as married couple). <-- that kinda doesnt go very well with the neutral view u have.. ur against it.

then u state that being tolerent of gay marriage (which i'd associate with either being pro it, or neutral towards it) alienate those who are not tolerent of it. <-after saying ur neutral about it? your saying that ur neutral view alienates the prejudiced anti-gay-marriage people?

then after all this, u say u want a place where we can have a healthy better understanding of each other. after saying

And if the people in San Fransico want drunken gay orgies at 10 am on a Sunday then they should get it.

<- which reflects a lack of any healthy understanding of the whole issue of being gay and gay marriage.

everyone's entitled to their opinion, but consistence in an argument is nice. makes things a little easier.

i am done with this. the only thing worse than prejudiced people, are prejudiced people who try to hide that they are.
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How old are you? 12? Why do you even bother having a discussion if you are going to say something like:

i am done with this. the only thing worse than prejudiced people, are prejudiced people who try to hide that they are.

I'm tired of talking to people who claim to open minded but are only open minded to the things they already believe.

If I'm not worth your time why should I respond to anything you say or ask? Your difference of opinion interests me and I'm willing to discuss those differences yet somehow I'm the one who is often told I'm the closed minded one.

Despite your rudeness and my lack of willingness to even show you any respect let me do the opposite of what I wish and explain some things to you.

so u dont care for gay marriage. so ur neutral towards it. neutral meaning you wouldnt vote against it or for it for that matter.

I'm not neutral towards it. I am opposed to gay marriage 120 percent. However, being opposed to something doesn't mean I think I should legislate it. The problem with the current voting block in America is everyone wants the government to pass legislation on everything. That's rediculous. Gay marriage is silliness, marriage has always been between a man and woman and the newspeak the left is throwing around is, quite frankly, disturbing. The Federal government should have nothing to do with marriage at all.

then u say that in a place where there's a majority of people not wanting gay marriage, gay people there should not marry ( because they just want be acknowledged as married couple). <-- that kinda doesnt go very well with the neutral view u have.. ur against it.

Not at all. If the people in Spokan don't want to have gays marry why should their communities be forced to recognize gay marriage? Communities should decide for themselves how they see fit best to live. They don't need some schmuck in DC or New York telling them what to do.

then u state that being tolerent of gay marriage (which i'd associate with either being pro it, or neutral towards it) alienate those who are not tolerent of it. <-after saying ur neutral about it? your saying that ur neutral view alienates the prejudiced anti-gay-marriage people?

I think I'm gonna need the German's WWII Enigma encoding device to figure this out. Let me reiterate what I think you asking:

"Legalizing gay marriage in communities where the residents do not wish alienates prejudice people. Why do you care what prejudice people think?"

That is what I think you asking so I will respond to that.

People do not have to obey one set of rules that you are anyone decides for them. If people think that gay marriage is a sin or is simply disgusting then I believe they have the right to believe whatever they wish. If the majority of people in any given zip code believe the same thing then it is up to them to decide how they wish for their community to operate. I care about what people believe and I believe people can make their own choices in life without being told what to do by people who think they have it more right then others. It's a very post-modern viewpoint, I thought you'd appreciate it.

And if the people in San Fransico want drunken gay orgies at 10 am on a Sunday then they should get it.

This was an exaggeration. I know, they are bit difficult to understand. By including this I was simply saying that "people over there should be able to do as they please so long as they do not impose their will on people over here."

If you have any more questions feel free to ask.







This post has been edited by somasoul: Nov 20 2004, 07:38 AM

[Sara]

How old are you? 12? Why do you even bother having a discussion if you are going to say something like:

I'm tired of talking to people who claim to open minded but are only open minded to the things they already believe.

If I'm not worth your time why should I respond to anything you say or ask? Your difference of opinion interests me and I'm willing to discuss those differences yet somehow I'm the one who is often told I'm the closed minded one.

Despite your rudeness and my lack of willingness to even show you any respect let me do the opposite of what I wish and explain some things to you.

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oh please stop it you're killing me! ur ever so funny!

dude, first off u showing me respect or not is the least of my concerns. i don't give two shits if you or anyone who shares your horrific views on life/minorities/society respects me or not. i really just don't care. having said that, everytime u or anyone post something i do make an effort to read it and understand it, so i wouldn't say you're not worth my time. that's harsh and i never said that. if this what you thought i meant, my apologies.

also, i am prepared to change my mind but not to prejudiced views...and oh, saying you could care less about gay marriage is not the same as saying that you oppose it 120%. you can't be neutral and oppose it at the same time.

anyways, i said i'm done.

[somasoul]

Can you be prejudice against what someone does?

[R-3vol-ution]

What I think is that people need to stop being corrupted by religion and just live their lives. No one is perfect so don't bother wasting time in your life being angry and anti this, anti that. The fact of the matter is, homosexuals and bi sexuals have been around since before ancient greece. By the way, ancient greece promoted homosexuality among males because they felt it strengthened them emotionally, and brought the best qualities out in them.

Just live your own life and be happy, dont let the lifestyle of others stress you out so much, its their life , let them live it. If you truely believe that they are going to hell....let them, go ahead and pat yourself on the back because you are going to heavan if thats what you think, have satisfaction enough in believing you are perfect. Don't be afraid to accept people for who they are. And think about it, what are you getting mad about? you are mad because someone loves someone of their own gender? How does that hurt you? And please don't feed me some BS about how it hurts society because being different divides our society thus causing war, please dont give me a 40 step process as to how it hurts you. I went to high school with gay people, I never had a problem studying or getting good grades, I've worked with gay people, never had a hard time getting my job done. The fact of the matter is that homosexuality and bi-sexuality will never go away, and tbh, im glad, its our differences that make life worth living.

All in all, less more

Thus concludes my first post on this website

[Moremi]

Don't really want to get involved in this conversation. Just thought I should say, I agree with you and this is pretty much how I feel about it. I had a gay uncle. His lifestyle never bothered me. In fact, he was a better person than most people I know.

[Hey! UT]

When In Rome, Do What The Romans Do --- and sleep with under-aged boys.

But my point is, this isn't a new issue --- homosexuality has existed since the premiere of mankind. (someone knows their history MR. R-3vol-ution). On these issues, to each their own, I always say. Except when it's a lipstick lesbian relationship, then it's definately MY BUSINESS!! Like the Church's Chicken motto says: "Mmm Mmm, Gotta Love It!"



People just need to chill and let homos be homos and heteos be headed --- Besides, who breeds homosexuals anyways if it isn't right-wing heterosexuals (Mr. Cheney) --- So God DOES have a sense of humor. The inhabitants of Earth need a bonding experience, you know, to really get to know each other, so, my solution is to have group sex ... throw down a couple of pints ... and call it a day...



For those of you who are interested in further reading on my philosophies, buy my books entitled --- Jamestown: Don't Drink The Kool-Aid, IM Codes Vs. Newspeak, & Just Call Me Plato

OOOO --- IM Codes Vs. Newspeak --- I'm going to start a new topic....

Peace,

~Dezi

"Barnie Ruble Goes Both Ways" ~In Living Color

[Stormwarden]

When people keep yelling about gay marriage, 99 times out of 100, the only justification I hear is that "God forbids it." Me? I don't see what the fuss is about. Why not let GLBTs have the same right to marry.

Of course, I hear the same old argument about how it would lead to pedophilia and beastiality being legalized, but those are far different from gay marriage. Let's face it, you can't marry animals without the ASPCA kicking your butt and people would be waiting in line to beat you to the pavement if you tried to marry a child.

But two same-sex, consenting adults, marrying? Don't we have more important things to worry about?

[Casbah]

When people keep yelling about gay marriage, 99 times out of 100, the only justification I hear is that "God forbids it." Me? I don't see what the fuss is about. Why not let GLBTs have the same right to marry.

Of course, I hear the same old argument about how it would lead to pedophilia and beastiality being legalized, but those are far different from gay marriage. Let's face it, you can't marry animals without the ASPCA kicking your butt and people would be waiting in line to beat you to the pavement if you tried to marry a child.

But two same-sex, consenting adults, marrying? Don't we have more important things to worry about?

I dunno what the fuss is about really.. I think it all boils down to good old fashioned xenophobia and homophobia..

I don't think heterosexual couples respect this so called "institution of marriage" too much.. Since most of their marriages, at least in America, end in divorce. My parents and most of my friends parents were divorced..

[Stormwarden]

Let me see her:

1) The bachelor
2) The bachelorette
3) My Big Fat Obnoxious Fiance
4) Any other marriage show you can name
5) Britney Spears' stunt in Vegas
6) High divorce rate here in the US

The thing is that if anything, gay marriage may actually IMPROVE the value of marriage rather than deteriorate it.