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> God Loves You Part 2, reason for typing what I did
proudAmerican
post Jun 11 2003, 11:02 AM
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I was going to type something that more appropriately expressed my anger at people who disrespect our government so much. But instead I wrote my "God loves you" piece. I didn't mean to offend or "push" anybody to my religion, it was just better for me to write that, than to be(angry) or write something angry. I enjoy RATM, at least the early stuff, purely for the music and energy it puts forward, so that is why I'm here. I don't however, understand how you all pretend to be tolerant of others, yet when someone of another religion shares it with you, I'm somehow pushing it at you, and I get disrespected. Anyway, hypocrisy applied to all people, I guess. God still loves you.
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post Jun 11 2003, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE (proudAmerican @ Jun 11 2003, 07:02 PM)
I was going to type something that more appropriately expressed my anger at people who disrespect our government so much. But instead I wrote my "God loves you" piece. I didn't mean to offend or "push" anybody to my religion, it was just better for me to write that, than to be(angry) or write something angry. I enjoy RATM, at least the early stuff, purely for the music and energy it puts forward, so that is why I'm here. I don't however, understand how you all pretend to be tolerant of others, yet when someone of another religion shares it with you, I'm somehow pushing it at you, and I get disrespected. Anyway, hypocrisy applied to all people, I guess. God still loves you.

I agree that you should have the right to express your opinion about your religion. However, the reason some people here got annoyed is because you seemed to imply that somehow we were on the wrong track and that the right track is Christianity. Thus, the feeling of you trying to "push your religion". Also, it was clear you thought we were in the wrong somehow because of our political opinions (well, most of us at least) and when now you say you first wanted to say you were angry because of disrespect to the US government, you confirm this yourself. By the way, if that's what you want to say, go on, people can handle this type of thing here. Better that than being condescending and 'tolerantly' wish us well, when honestly I'm not sure you do.

And of course, God still loves us, I never personally doubted it.
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Moremi
post Jun 11 2003, 01:09 PM
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Well said Nistha cool.gif


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cosmic
post Jun 11 2003, 05:58 PM
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QUOTE (proudAmerican @ Jun 11 2003, 12:02 PM)
God still loves you.

What do you mean by "still" loves us? What have I done?



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post Jun 11 2003, 08:01 PM
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Yeah, let's get this question by Cosmic anwered right now.
I won't be held responsible for anybody else's wrong doing, by the way. Your God seems to be pretty judgemental. And why bring this on the board anyway? If you want to get in good, you better start talkin' some RATM or ZDLR..


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post Jun 11 2003, 08:31 PM
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i don't love god. man, i don't even believe in him... although i respect others doing so.


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post Jun 11 2003, 08:32 PM
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revolutionusa, we talk LOTS of stuff that hasn't got shit to do with zack or ratm as well... and since this is quite a political discussion, why not?


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post Jun 11 2003, 09:03 PM
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But he's already kind of destroyed himself by popping on the board with all this, so if he doesn't discuss anything other than religion spew, then he's going to continue getting bashed. If he wants to preach to me, then I can preach to him with my beliefs.


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Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.


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post Jun 11 2003, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE (ZDLRfan @ Jun 11 2003, 09:09 PM)
Well said Nistha cool.gif

As always... wink.gif

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post Jun 12 2003, 06:05 AM
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Hey proundAmerican, why don't you like RATM's new stuff?


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Rage Man Leca
post Jun 12 2003, 12:54 PM
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hey your name proud american is a joke rightttttttt?



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cosmic
post Jun 12 2003, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE (Rage Man Leca @ Jun 12 2003, 01:54 PM)
hey your name proud american is a joke rightttttttt?

i'm a proud american, but not because of my gov't.


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Moremi
post Jun 13 2003, 08:42 PM
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What's an American? mellow.gif


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post Jun 14 2003, 01:48 AM
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QUOTE (proudAmerican @ Jun 11 2003, 02:02 PM)
I was going to type something that more appropriately expressed my anger at people who disrespect our government so much. But instead I wrote my "God loves you" piece.

Strange. Your name is 'proudAmerican', you start off by preaching to us, and then you were thinking about writing a letter of anger about why government is good on an ANTI-GOVERNMENT board. And you expect to not get slammed?? wink.gif


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Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you.


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SilverTongue
post Jun 14 2003, 09:20 AM
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What the? I didn't notice this! Well, at least proudAmerican has made double the posts I ever thought he would!

But his second post has more than double raged me! zmat2.gif There he is saying how we are all hypocrites for pretending to be tolerant of others, yet slam him, but he is doing the exact same thing! The worst types of hypocrites are those that call others hypocrites, yet are hypocrites themselves in exactly the same way. Now THAT is really a hypocrite. Due to his religion, and how hardcore he sounds, I doubt he tolerates anything that goes against the Bible. I know what his defense will be, is that, "oh homosexuals are fine, just so long as they stay away from me" or, "and don't bring up the subject around me", (well if that's the case, then don't bring up the subject about Christianity to non-Christians, who is the hypocrite now?) "and that they don't act on their disgusting lusts."

Bottom line is, people like you contribute to the prejudice and silencing of others. So in that case, you are excluded from my list of equality, simply beacause you have lesser opinions of those not like yourself. Therefore, we are not hypocrites for slamming you, and it is hypocritical for you to call us hypocrites when you are one yourself.


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